The J/109 Class Association Forum

Class Rules Discussions :: Class Rules Interpretation for Handrails and Rope Clutches :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Sun, 29 Jan 2023 22:14:24 -0500

Using an inline constrictor clutch is the way to go. Fixed all slippage issues and no wear on the halyards. Class rules require retaining the original Spinlocks but there are now other types of constrictor clutches on the market that were not available when I installed the Ronstan Constrictors (Manufactured by French Company Cousin-Trestec).

Class Rules Discussions :: Lithium batteries for J/109 class :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:06:30 -0400

I just installed a Lifeline Group 31 AGM as a replacement for my previous North Star AGM. No changes needed for the charging system setup as this is basically the same. I'll report how battery life and charge / discharge times are later this season.

Class Rules Discussions :: Checklist 2023 NAC :: Reply by Bengt J

no_email@example.com (Bengt J) — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:30:19 -0400

Lithium Ion batteries are not Class Legal and must be removed for Class events.
The Technical Committee, with support from J boats, is monitoring the development and as soon as Industry standards are implemented to satisfy all safety concerns we will inform the Class.
Keep in mind our J109's are 20+ year old boats with an electrical system that was not designed for anything but lead acid batteries, it is a big safety concern to just drop in lithium Ion batteries.

Class Rules Discussions :: Stanchion Swap? :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 15:17:19 -0400

Yes - Whitewater Marine per the Equipment Suppliers Page. Mouse over Market and click on Equipment Suppliers.

Maintenance Topics :: Correct Edson Parts For Steering Rebuild :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

no_email@example.com (Dan Corcoran) — Thu, 29 Dec 2022 22:08:30 -0500

Thank you for posting!

Maintenance Topics :: Backstay too long? :: Reply by dbrousseau

no_email@example.com (dbrousseau) — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 14:28:06 -0500

Thanks Mvallus, the question now is whether there is too much rake, causing the backstay to appear to be too long. Is your rake measurement in line with the Quantum or North tuning guides? Have you done a rake measurement using the main halyard hanging down with a weight?

Maintenance Topics :: Harken Winch Drum Resurfacing :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

no_email@example.com (Dan Corcoran) — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 12:32:16 -0500

Thank you so much for posting!

Maintenance Topics :: Check the tabbing on your galley :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Sat, 18 Mar 2023 14:50:40 -0400

I got impatient and wanted to finish this job, and decided to use heat lamps so I could apply the gelcoat. The area was cleaned up, light sanded and wiped down with acetone. It was then masked and then a brush used to apply gelcoat. I used the gelcoat with wax additive so it doesn't need any spray like styrene to seal it so it can kick. Heat lamps were used to warm the area and help the gelcoat kick.

The pictures below were take after removing the masking. It's still outgassing pretty heavily so no more work inside the boat until the chemical reaction is complete!

Aft under galley stove:

Forward of galley by water tank:

Maintenance Topics :: Recommended Battery Replacement :: Reply by 30101

no_email@example.com (30101) — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 15:54:19 -0400

Has anyone successfully installed Firefly batteries in the french-built boats? Those boats have the house bank under the salon table. That is good for weight placement but problematic for space considerations. I have switched the original European lead acid battery (group 4d?) for a group 31 Firefly.
The Firefly and a solar charger on the mooring seem to be working well. However, I’d like to add a second Firefly under the table to ensure we have adequate power for distance races, especially double-handed races. It is a very tight fit but might be able to be done with some modifications to the cable access points. Further complicating things is figuring out how to mount a battery monitor shunt within that space. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Maintenance Topics :: Instrument Cluster :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:44:19 -0400

Fix it right. Drill / grind out the loose holes as needed. Thickened epoxy and if a lot was taken out maybe some glass cloth. Gelcoat and redrill the holes.

Maintenance Topics :: 3GM Exhaust Elbow :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Wed, 12 Apr 2023 19:03:01 -0400

Looks much better. My guess is you will see immediate improvement first time you start the engine.

Maintenance Topics :: Deck Chainplates :: Reply by morganscloud

no_email@example.com (morganscloud) — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:18:54 -0400

Hi Dan,

This may be the problem: viewtopic.php?t=1506

And if it is, just taking it all apart and re-beading will not fix it. I just found notes from the first owner indicating that it had been "fixed" that way before, and, of course, it leaked again, so check for this problem first.

John

Maintenance Topics :: Chain plate construction error resulting in deck distortion :: Reply by morganscloud

no_email@example.com (morganscloud) — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:21:19 -0400

Hi All,

Just to tidy up this thread, I posted more on putting the chain plates back and getting the tie bars right on this thread: viewtopic.php?t=1559

Maintenance Topics :: Diesel tank o-ring seal :: Reply by bmastror

no_email@example.com (bmastror) — Tue, 02 May 2023 13:54:05 -0400

Great - thanks! I also talked to my diesel mechanic. He said West Marine actually carries the part - it's called a tank sender gasket. There is only one way it can go in with the 5 screws. He recommended marking the tank with a Sharpie to ensure I get the alignment right with the new gasket. Hopefully I don't have an issues with the screws, but good to know there is a solution if I have a problem.

Maintenance Topics :: What part is that Standup Harken Block? Ratchet useful? :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Mon, 08 May 2023 09:21:58 -0400

It's a Harken Hexaratchet block. Google it and you'll see various sizes and configurations (swivel, becket, cam cleat, etc.). I usually have the ratchet off but in heavy air it is helpful.

Maintenance Topics :: Gebo Portlight Replacement Parts :: Reply by Mvallus

no_email@example.com (Mvallus) — Sun, 21 May 2023 16:11:59 -0400

Curious if anyone has ordered a new forward hatch from Gebo? I emailed them and they sent me a brochure with many different styles (Standard/Flushline, with flange/without). I just want to make sure I get the right style and dimensions before I place my order.

https://www.gebo.com/en/deckhatches/

Maintenance Topics :: Head sink faucet hose :: Reply by bmastror

no_email@example.com (bmastror) — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 17:48:45 -0400

No, I did not ask about the faucet. I did need to replace the faucet in the galley and Grohe doesn't make that one anymore. I just got something simple from HomeDepo

Sails & Tuning :: Trying to measure mast rake - no black band :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:18:54 -0400

If you are looking for the lower measurement band on the mast, the top of the band should be even with the hole in the boom fitting that the mainsail tack is attached.

Sails & Tuning :: Updates to 2004 tuning guide for 2003 hull ? :: Reply by Bengt J

no_email@example.com (Bengt J) — Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:40:21 -0400

On Zig Zag, hull #37, the mast butt is all the way forward at 464 mm, rake at 2252 mm(swing arc), J at 4072 mm. This setting works very well with our Quantum sails.
TPI the builder of US boats was never known for accuracy, variations of up to plus/minus 0.5" to be expected. Still boats of different age are very evenly matched for speed and point, crew work and tactics makes the biggest difference.

Sails & Tuning :: Batten Length? :: Reply by Hudson8

no_email@example.com (Hudson8) — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:57:25 -0400

Will do, thank you!

Racing Tools and Techniques :: Any recommendations for cord, and overall design? :: Reply by jkalucki

no_email@example.com (jkalucki) — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:37:47 -0500

Hi Dan,

I've had 10mm Marlow D2 Classic spinnaker sheets for 5 years and they've worn well. Hardly any cover fraying. The classic neutral color sometimes looks a little dirty, and certainly doesn't have that grand-prix coloring. D2 race might look a little more modern. I didn't go higher tech as I wanted a thicker diameter line for hand and at some point you are just way over-spec. D2 doesn't stretch all that much even when seriously boning on the jib. It's a little stiff compared to the original spec line, and will come out of the self tailer if you don't pay a little attention, but I'd expect any Dyneema core line to be the same or likely worse. Very rarely, if ever, kinks in the turning block. I'd just put an eye on the working end and make up some soft shackles to attach to the jib.

For the main halyard, I'd get the best line you can. Even 7/16" 11mm Yale Crystalyne (Vectran core) creeps a lot for me when racing with a North 3di Endurance main in heavy air. I have two cabintop clutches for the halyard and a Sharpie mark shows that it's not slipping down there. Some of it may be rig movement & compression, but I haven't sorted this out. I'll often see a little drooping at the head after an hour of racing, and have to adjust the halyard tension quite a bit. Afterward it's generally fine. I like the Tylaska H12 shackle here, but I don't have much experience with it yet. The lower spec shackle (maybe a Wichard, I dunno) I have on another halyard has deformed a bit over time and the captive pin is a little annoying to operate.

I think I have a 11mm Vectran jib halyard as well. No issues.

I've no informed opinions on spinnaker sheets and halyards. The ones that came with the boat a decade ago are still kinda barely hanging in there, but I'm really asking for trouble.

Events & Scheduling :: Champlins Discount for Race Week through 12/31/22 :: Author Dan Corcoran

no_email@example.com (Dan Corcoran) — Wed, 28 Dec 2022 15:19:46 -0500

Thinking of Block Island Race Week 2023 - If registration by 12/31 on yachstcoring, there is a process they send you via email to register at Champlins Marina at the discounted price of $6.5/foot instead of the $10.5/foot which will be their published rate.
Strider will be there.

Boats for Sale :: J109-deep keel wanted northeast :: Author COOP

no_email@example.com (COOP) — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 11:02:33 -0500

Interested in J/109 deep keel for racing. please let me know if any for sale.

Boats for Sale :: Want to Buy J109 Shoal Draft :: Author dmdanielson

no_email@example.com (dmdanielson) — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 17:21:02 -0500

I'm searching for J109 Shoal Draft. Please contact Mike Danielson at mike@danielsonweb.com, 813-508-4839. Thank you.

Boats for Sale :: 2003 deep draft J109 "Zig Zag" :: Author Bengt J

no_email@example.com (Bengt J) — Mon, 08 May 2023 19:43:32 -0400

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Boats for Sale :: 2009 J-109 for sale :: Author 35601

no_email@example.com (35601) — Mon, 29 May 2023 19:44:28 -0400

French built Hull # 356 Located in SagHarbor New York
White Hull triple gray boot strip
Asking $160,000.00

2023 New Starter battery
2023 New Main Halyard
2023 New ceramic cams and cam bases for main and jib.
2023 New Quantum Class Kite unused
2022 New Quantum Main used a few times
2022 New Quantum Class Jib also used a few times
2022 New spinnaker sheets and tack line
2021 Winter cover with frame
2021 Dodger with fly to cover cockpit at anchor
2021 Wheel cover
2021 New sail drive seal
2021 New exhaust elbow
2021 New Bottom
2019 purchase survey available

Garmin gps map 740 chart plotter
Volvo Engine
For more info contact Dan
bodaciousj34c@gmail.com

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sold: Code Zero for sale :: Reply by 35601

no_email@example.com (35601) — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 17:31:52 -0500

Code zero sold

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sails :: Author 35601

no_email@example.com (35601) — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 17:35:16 -0500

2022 Z sails Triradial dacron Jib with battens and UV cover. $1500 OBO Good delivery or Wed night sail not much use

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sold: Storm Trysail :: Reply by Hudson8

no_email@example.com (Hudson8) — Mon, 06 Mar 2023 23:13:04 -0500

Thanks for the reply! I'm out in Santa Barbara, California. If you do still have the sail my email is mayhud@lbsstudents.org

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Strider Sails & Equipment for Sale, Easy to purchase, live link here :: Reply by 35601

no_email@example.com (35601) — Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:42:05 -0400

Hi Dan
Id like to get in touch with you about a sail.
text or give a ring
Dan
6314617269

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sails to give away :: Reply by tkoetje

no_email@example.com (tkoetje) — Tue, 02 May 2023 15:26:43 -0400

I would be happy to hear about any light #1s or light 155% genoas you have.

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: 2017 Evolution A2 (120 sq meters) :: Author JohnGreifzu

no_email@example.com (JohnGreifzu) — Wed, 10 May 2023 15:06:46 -0400

2017 Evolution (NZ) A2 Spinnaker
120 square meters (for handicap racing or Great Lakes use)
White AirX
Turtle bag
Used but still has a lot of life left. Great for weeknight racing.

$1,000 OBO

Sail is in CT
Email: johngreifzu@gmail.com

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Sails & Equipment for Sale :: 2019 North 3Di Class Main :: Author JohnGreifzu

no_email@example.com (JohnGreifzu) — Wed, 10 May 2023 15:25:59 -0400

2019 North Sails 3Di 760 Class Mainsail
Sail Tag No. 1804916N
Sail Delivery Date: 07/02/2019
Used about 50 times. Still a very good sail!

Sail in CT
Email: johngreifzu@gmail.com

$3,500 OBO

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Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD * April 2023 * PRICE REDUCED - 2022 North A2 Class Spinnaker (108 sq meter) :: Reply by raydouglas

no_email@example.com (raydouglas) — Wed, 10 May 2023 16:17:25 -0400

SOLD April 2023

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Transom Locker :: Reply by Captadam

no_email@example.com (Captadam) — Wed, 10 May 2023 19:15:39 -0400

If this is still available, I am very interested.

You can email me directly at captadam22@gmail.com

Thanks
Paul

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD - 2020 North 3Di L/M Class Jib :: Reply by glennmarck

no_email@example.com (glennmarck) — Tue, 16 May 2023 22:47:06 -0400

Hi John , Consider offer for $1,800 for Used Jib to Meet up with Main I purchased from you last year, Glenn Marck Waterdog

Looking to Buy Something :: Wanted: J/109 based in EU :: Author Max Houtzager

no_email@example.com (Max Houtzager) — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 12:05:19 -0500

Looking for a J-109 based in Europe. Boat will be sailed in the Netherlands. Please post me a message at maxhoutzager@gmail.com.
BR, Max.

Looking to Buy Something :: Wanted, more J/109's to choose Huntington, NY :: Author Dan Corcoran

no_email@example.com (Dan Corcoran) — Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:41:22 -0500

I would love to attract more people to keep their boats in Huntington or Northport waters. We have a very active sailing area with 3 yacht clubs, 2 inexpensive paper yacht clubs, five marinas, and multiple sailboat races every week.

The J/105 fleet is growing, while there are often no 2 of any other type of J-boat in a given race.

I would like to attract more owners to the 109, even if just one more. I know many of you tried. What has been working in other harbors?

Looking to Buy Something :: Extra Stanchions for US Boat? :: Author JohnGreifzu

no_email@example.com (JohnGreifzu) — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 18:47:41 -0400

I am in need of a US J/109 stanchion to borrow for a couple weeks or buy. They are 24 inches tall. Anyone have a spare? Text me: 203-249-9131.

The J/109 Class Association Forum

Class Rules Discussions :: Class Rules Interpretation for Handrails and Rope Clutches :: Reply by Vento Solare

Class Rules Discussions :: Lithium batteries for J/109 class :: Reply by Vento Solare

Class Rules Discussions :: Checklist 2023 NAC :: Reply by Bengt J

Class Rules Discussions :: Stanchion Swap? :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Correct Edson Parts For Steering Rebuild :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

Maintenance Topics :: Backstay too long? :: Reply by dbrousseau

Maintenance Topics :: Harken Winch Drum Resurfacing :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

Maintenance Topics :: Check the tabbing on your galley :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Recommended Battery Replacement :: Reply by 30101

Maintenance Topics :: Instrument Cluster :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: 3GM Exhaust Elbow :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Deck Chainplates :: Reply by morganscloud

Maintenance Topics :: Chain plate construction error resulting in deck distortion :: Reply by morganscloud

Maintenance Topics :: Diesel tank o-ring seal :: Reply by bmastror

Maintenance Topics :: What part is that Standup Harken Block? Ratchet useful? :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Gebo Portlight Replacement Parts :: Reply by Mvallus

Maintenance Topics :: Head sink faucet hose :: Reply by bmastror

Sails & Tuning :: Trying to measure mast rake - no black band :: Reply by Vento Solare

Sails & Tuning :: Updates to 2004 tuning guide for 2003 hull ? :: Reply by Bengt J

Sails & Tuning :: Batten Length? :: Reply by Hudson8

Racing Tools and Techniques :: Any recommendations for cord, and overall design? :: Reply by jkalucki

Events & Scheduling :: Champlins Discount for Race Week through 12/31/22 :: Author Dan Corcoran

Boats for Sale :: J109-deep keel wanted northeast :: Author COOP

Boats for Sale :: Want to Buy J109 Shoal Draft :: Author dmdanielson

Boats for Sale :: 2003 deep draft J109 "Zig Zag" :: Author Bengt J

Boats for Sale :: 2009 J-109 for sale :: Author 35601

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sold: Code Zero for sale :: Reply by 35601

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sails :: Author 35601

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sold: Storm Trysail :: Reply by Hudson8

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Strider Sails & Equipment for Sale, Easy to purchase, live link here :: Reply by 35601

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sails to give away :: Reply by tkoetje

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: 2017 Evolution A2 (120 sq meters) :: Author JohnGreifzu

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: 2019 North 3Di Class Main :: Author JohnGreifzu

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD *** April 2023 *** PRICE REDUCED - 2022 North A2 Class Spinnaker (108 sq meter) :: Reply by raydouglas

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Transom Locker :: Reply by Captadam

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD - 2020 North 3Di L/M Class Jib :: Reply by glennmarck

Looking to Buy Something :: Wanted: J/109 based in EU :: Author Max Houtzager

Looking to Buy Something :: Wanted, more J/109's to choose Huntington, NY :: Author Dan Corcoran

Looking to Buy Something :: Extra Stanchions for US Boat? :: Author JohnGreifzu

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD * April 2023 * PRICE REDUCED - 2022 North A2 Class Spinnaker (108 sq meter) :: Reply by raydouglas