The J/109 Class Association Forum

Class Rules Discussions :: Lithium batteries for J/109 class :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:06:30 -0400

I just installed a Lifeline Group 31 AGM as a replacement for my previous North Star AGM. No changes needed for the charging system setup as this is basically the same. I'll report how battery life and charge / discharge times are later this season.

Class Rules Discussions :: Checklist 2023 NAC :: Reply by Bengt J

no_email@example.com (Bengt J) — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:30:19 -0400

Lithium Ion batteries are not Class Legal and must be removed for Class events.
The Technical Committee, with support from J boats, is monitoring the development and as soon as Industry standards are implemented to satisfy all safety concerns we will inform the Class.
Keep in mind our J109's are 20+ year old boats with an electrical system that was not designed for anything but lead acid batteries, it is a big safety concern to just drop in lithium Ion batteries.

Class Rules Discussions :: Stanchion Swap? :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 15:17:19 -0400

Yes - Whitewater Marine per the Equipment Suppliers Page. Mouse over Market and click on Equipment Suppliers.

Class Rules Discussions :: Propeller replacement :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 06:26:38 -0400

Good luck Carl. I just went to the Flexofold site to get further information for the Technical Committee. They were acquired by Yanmar but still maintain their autonomy.

For the TC - The composite hub is dimensionally the same and weighs 2.8 Kg (6.17 lbs) less than the bronze hub. Links below for the specs.

Maintenance Topics :: Instrument Cluster :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:44:19 -0400

Fix it right. Drill / grind out the loose holes as needed. Thickened epoxy and if a lot was taken out maybe some glass cloth. Gelcoat and redrill the holes.

Maintenance Topics :: 3GM Exhaust Elbow :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Wed, 12 Apr 2023 19:03:01 -0400

Looks much better. My guess is you will see immediate improvement first time you start the engine.

Maintenance Topics :: Deck Chainplates :: Reply by morganscloud

no_email@example.com (morganscloud) — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:18:54 -0400

Hi Dan,

This may be the problem: viewtopic.php?t=1506

And if it is, just taking it all apart and re-beading will not fix it. I just found notes from the first owner indicating that it had been "fixed" that way before, and, of course, it leaked again, so check for this problem first.

John

Maintenance Topics :: Chain plate construction error resulting in deck distortion :: Reply by morganscloud

no_email@example.com (morganscloud) — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:21:19 -0400

Hi All,

Just to tidy up this thread, I posted more on putting the chain plates back and getting the tie bars right on this thread: viewtopic.php?t=1559

Maintenance Topics :: Diesel tank o-ring seal :: Reply by bmastror

no_email@example.com (bmastror) — Tue, 02 May 2023 13:54:05 -0400

Great - thanks! I also talked to my diesel mechanic. He said West Marine actually carries the part - it's called a tank sender gasket. There is only one way it can go in with the 5 screws. He recommended marking the tank with a Sharpie to ensure I get the alignment right with the new gasket. Hopefully I don't have an issues with the screws, but good to know there is a solution if I have a problem.

Maintenance Topics :: What part is that Standup Harken Block? Ratchet useful? :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Mon, 08 May 2023 09:21:58 -0400

It's a Harken Hexaratchet block. Google it and you'll see various sizes and configurations (swivel, becket, cam cleat, etc.). I usually have the ratchet off but in heavy air it is helpful.

Maintenance Topics :: Head sink faucet hose :: Reply by bmastror

no_email@example.com (bmastror) — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 17:48:45 -0400

No, I did not ask about the faucet. I did need to replace the faucet in the galley and Grohe doesn't make that one anymore. I just got something simple from HomeDepo

Maintenance Topics :: Jib Inhauler System :: Reply by dbrousseau

no_email@example.com (dbrousseau) — Sat, 17 Jun 2023 17:53:57 -0400

Hey Dan, can you share pics of what you finally came up with for your inhauler set-up? I am starting from scratch. Thanks, Dan

Maintenance Topics :: Gebo Portlight Replacement Parts :: Reply by Mvallus

no_email@example.com (Mvallus) — Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:20:13 -0400

FYI, was able to install a new forward hatch (just the top). I can confirm the forward hatch is "Standard Deckhatch – no Flange (560 × 560mm)"; with cutout size of 500 x 500mm. https://yachtparts.com/product/standard ... -560560mm/

Could not order just the glass/top, had to order the entire thing.

Maintenance Topics :: Jib car lines easily come out of the cleats :: Author Dan Corcoran

no_email@example.com (Dan Corcoran) — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 22:15:42 -0400

Is anyone else experiencing the jib car adjustment lines coming out of the cleats when unloaded? mearly brushing the line with a foot is enought to dislodge it. Is there a solution?

Maintenance Topics :: Furling block location :: Reply by TSweather

no_email@example.com (TSweather) — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 14:27:47 -0400

Hi Dan,
We have had similar problems with our furler as it seems to have taken a beating over the past 20 years, especially each time the rig was taken down. While I am about to replace ours, I did have some success lubricating it with Harken One Drop and that has allowed us to keep it in service. One area to check for anything binding up is under the torque tube. That is the part that is just above where the tack of the sail attaches and is held in place by 3 allen bolts. It is the cone that connects the drum/spool to the sail track. Just unscrew, lift it up, and make sure everything is moving well within. Our furler line is also worn, which is also likely slowing everything down in there as the line has gotten fuzzy and sun baked. If that gap between the cage and the spool top is where the line is getting hung up you can loosen the lower most allen bolts on the unit and slide the cage up until just before it drags on the spool top.
Good luck, Todd
#41

Maintenance Topics :: Head of Main Sail Pops Out of Track :: Reply by carlbraden

no_email@example.com (carlbraden) — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 03:48:24 -0400

Are there any 109 owners who have bought a Tides Marine track that could please share the specification or part number that I can use to replicate the order?
Thanks
Carl

Maintenance Topics :: Cabin top halyard tail bags :: Reply by Vento Solare

no_email@example.com (Vento Solare) — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 13:56:48 -0400

Dan - see this post about the Gebo portlight seals.

Maintenance Topics :: Spartite Mast Insert Moving :: Reply by jerry

no_email@example.com (jerry) — Sat, 22 Jul 2023 16:01:14 -0400

Thanks- that may be it. When the mast was out in February '22, I took the opportunity to clean and then polish the mast. I bet that reduced the friction. I was out last Wednesday and it moved 2-3 mm again. I'll apply the silicone around it and see if it helps. I did notice when looking up from inside the cabin that there are flanges which may permit a screw to be inserted into the insert to hold it down. I'll take pictures next week to see if that is an option if the silicone doesn't hold.

Maintenance Topics :: long delay before water exhausts :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

no_email@example.com (Dan Corcoran) — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 14:08:31 -0400

To close the thread, the problem turned out to be a loose v-belt between the pump and engine.

Sails & Tuning :: Batten Length? :: Reply by Hudson8

no_email@example.com (Hudson8) — Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:57:25 -0400

Will do, thank you!

Racing Tools and Techniques :: Advice on pole and rigging for jib and/or asym spin :: Reply by jkalucki

no_email@example.com (jkalucki) — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 20:59:53 -0400

I have an adjustable whisker pole setup using a Forespar LC10-18UTR, initially for a 2012 Quantum #2 that wasn't cut for inhauling. Switching to a North 2021 #2 (higher wind version) cut for inhauling, the clew is, paradoxically, somewhat lower when set out on the whisker pole. So, the ring on the mast is now theoretically too high, and the whisker pole now angles downward quite a bit towards the clew, but it still works fine. I don't need to extend it much at all for the current 2021 #2. A slightly shorter and lighter, pole might now be sufficient.

I wouldn't bother setting a spinnaker from a mast attached pole like on a symmetric boat. I'd only set from the built-in prod.

-John

Racing Tools and Techniques :: Looking for inhauler set ups :: Reply by jkalucki

no_email@example.com (jkalucki) — Fri, 30 Jun 2023 14:37:05 -0400

Photos of my inhauler setup.

The shock cord ends have gotten a bit ragged after a few years, but the cord doesn't last more than 3-4 years in the sun anyway. Next replacement cycle I will tie them with perfection loop or overhand loop knots (theoretically better than a bowline in shock cord) and trim them up with the hot knife. Tie some whipping around the ring, and then tie the shock cord to the whipping. Looping shock cord around the ring allows them to pop out too easily.

Easom used Antal size S R 30.56 friction rings to accommodate hard jib shackles. I've switched to soft jib shackles would would probably go down several ring sizes.

I've been thinking of moving the control line to a cabin-edge jam cleat, similar to the vang, for faster access, but the lever cleat works well enough.

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Events & Scheduling :: Charter J-109 available California :: Reply by dbrousseau

no_email@example.com (dbrousseau) — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:22:59 -0400

Wow that's generous. J105s can fetch many $000s to charter for a major regatta here, not including all those other costs.

Boats for Sale :: 2003 deep draft J109 "Zig Zag" :: Author Bengt J

no_email@example.com (Bengt J) — Mon, 08 May 2023 19:43:32 -0400

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Boats for Sale :: No Longer for Sale: 2009 J-109 for sale :: Reply by 35601

no_email@example.com (35601) — Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:07:04 -0400

no longer for sale

Boats for Sale :: Sold: J/109 #230 for sale in Hamburg, Germany :: Reply by Kapama

no_email@example.com (Kapama) — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 15:48:17 -0400

the boat is sold

Boats for Sale :: Wanted J/109 for Chicago racing and cruising :: Author dimab0

no_email@example.com (dimab0) — Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:47:59 -0400

I’m currently in the market for a J/109. Of course, I’ve checked online listings but would always prefer to find someone local.

I’ve been sailing for 7-8yr now and crewing for various boats out of Montrose the last 4-5yr. I’m hoping to take the next step to race my own boat since I’m convinced that would be the fastest way to learn and improve. The J/109 is a reasonable compromise with my family since I’ll still get a great race boat while there would be room for occasional cruising and ok for kids.

Boats for Sale :: LOKI - USA 125 is for sale! :: Author drosowj

no_email@example.com (drosowj) — Tue, 08 Aug 2023 09:30:06 -0400

LOKI is the most successful J109 in Class history having won an unprecedented four North American Championships, four Vineyard Races, numerous other Class regattas (15), some distance races (3), and placed on the podium in other regattas (10).

LOKI also cruises every year. The family is known to annually assemble the dodger and sunshade, stock up on groceries, add the cockpit cushions, and the beach towels, and escape for a week’s relaxing cruise.

Cosmetically, she features a newly painted Awlgrip deck. The sail inventory is extensive and in excellent condition. It includes a Quantum Code Zero on a Harken Furler. Electronics are powered by a B&G H5000 CPU and networked to leverage Expedition.

Other features include a Thurston dodger, helm shade, wheel cover, hot/cold water, refrigeration, autopilot, AIS, and a port-side Pullman settee. LOKI is constantly updated and is ready to take her new owner almost anywhere.

LOKI is available immediately and can be seen in Southport Harbor, CT.

Asking $159,000 on Flagship Yachts

Contact Michael Beers, CPYB at Flagship Yacht Sales for a complete listing.
www.flagshipyachts.com
michael@flagshipyachts.com
718-764-7215

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Boats for Sale :: For Sale: Leading Edge, 2003 J/109 :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

no_email@example.com (Dan Corcoran) — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:36:16 -0400

The 109 is a great class to be in. Someone will be very lucky to own this boat.

Boats for Sale :: Blackfin for Sale #310 :: Author blackfin

no_email@example.com (blackfin) — Sun, 10 Sep 2023 21:09:40 -0400

Chicago boat is for sale! Pls contact Keith Eickenberg for more information. c-847-997-1395 keith.eickenberg@yahoo.com

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Strider Sails & Equipment for Sale, Easy to purchase, live link here :: Reply by 35601

no_email@example.com (35601) — Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:42:05 -0400

Hi Dan
Id like to get in touch with you about a sail.
text or give a ring
Dan
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Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD - 2017 Evolution A2 (120 sq meters) :: Author JohnGreifzu

no_email@example.com (JohnGreifzu) — Wed, 10 May 2023 15:06:46 -0400

2017 Evolution (NZ) A2 Spinnaker
120 square meters (for handicap racing or Great Lakes use)
White AirX
Turtle bag
Used but still has a lot of life left. Great for weeknight racing.

$1,000 OBO

Sail is in CT
Email: johngreifzu@gmail.com

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Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD * April 2023 * PRICE REDUCED - 2022 North A2 Class Spinnaker (108 sq meter) :: Reply by raydouglas

no_email@example.com (raydouglas) — Wed, 10 May 2023 16:17:25 -0400

SOLD April 2023

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Transom Locker :: Reply by Captadam

no_email@example.com (Captadam) — Wed, 10 May 2023 19:15:39 -0400

If this is still available, I am very interested.

You can email me directly at captadam22@gmail.com

Thanks
Paul

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD - 2020 North 3Di L/M Class Jib :: Reply by glennmarck

no_email@example.com (glennmarck) — Tue, 16 May 2023 22:47:06 -0400

Hi John , Consider offer for $1,800 for Used Jib to Meet up with Main I purchased from you last year, Glenn Marck Waterdog

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sails to give away :: Reply by kurtstrecker

no_email@example.com (kurtstrecker) — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 10:32:20 -0400

Hi! Do you have any spinnakers? I’m looking for 2.

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Wanted: Used Spinnaker :: Author kurtstrecker

no_email@example.com (kurtstrecker) — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 13:28:01 -0400

I’m looking for a used asymmetric spinnaker for a friend who just bought a cruising Beneteau. If you have old spinnakers in your basement and would like to sell one or two, please let me know. Does not have to be race quality. You can call or text me at 860-395-4424 or kurt@soundrigging.com. Thank you!

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Winter Cover Special :: Author NSCanvas

no_email@example.com (NSCanvas) — Fri, 08 Sep 2023 15:38:39 -0400

To anyone interested in a winter cover for a J109. We are North Shore Canvas, Inc. and we make custom canvas and winter covers for sailboats. We have a duplicate J/109 winter cover which is brand new, never been used and we will give an additional $150 off our original promotion of $500 off before the boat shows. Please call me if you're interested. - Denise

North Shore Canvas, Inc.
11 Grandview Street
Huntington, NY 11743
631-757-0400
nscanvas@optonline.net

Looking to Buy Something :: Extra Stanchions for US Boat? :: Author JohnGreifzu

no_email@example.com (JohnGreifzu) — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 18:47:41 -0400

I am in need of a US J/109 stanchion to borrow for a couple weeks or buy. They are 24 inches tall. Anyone have a spare? Text me: 203-249-9131.

Looking to Buy Something :: Wanted: J/109 for Chicago racing and cruising :: Author dimab0

no_email@example.com (dimab0) — Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:49:55 -0400

Looking to Buy Something :: Looking for Code 0 :: Author Meinhard

no_email@example.com (Meinhard) — Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:34:34 -0400

Hi, I am looking for a Code 0 for my J/109.
BR, Meinhard

Looking to Buy Something :: Looking for gently used racing sails to buy :: Author dbrousseau

no_email@example.com (dbrousseau) — Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:04:27 -0400

Now that we are end of season maybe there's a few of you that want to unload J-109 racing sails. I'm looking for main, spinnaker (108 SM and/or 120 SM) and class jib, as well as a genoa and possibly a code zero. All for racing in SF Bay. Ideally less than 3-4 years old and/or really good condition. Thanks, Dan.

The J/109 Class Association Forum

Class Rules Discussions :: Lithium batteries for J/109 class :: Reply by Vento Solare

Class Rules Discussions :: Checklist 2023 NAC :: Reply by Bengt J

Class Rules Discussions :: Stanchion Swap? :: Reply by Vento Solare

Class Rules Discussions :: Propeller replacement :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Instrument Cluster :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: 3GM Exhaust Elbow :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Deck Chainplates :: Reply by morganscloud

Maintenance Topics :: Chain plate construction error resulting in deck distortion :: Reply by morganscloud

Maintenance Topics :: Diesel tank o-ring seal :: Reply by bmastror

Maintenance Topics :: What part is that Standup Harken Block? Ratchet useful? :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Head sink faucet hose :: Reply by bmastror

Maintenance Topics :: Jib Inhauler System :: Reply by dbrousseau

Maintenance Topics :: Gebo Portlight Replacement Parts :: Reply by Mvallus

Maintenance Topics :: Jib car lines easily come out of the cleats :: Author Dan Corcoran

Maintenance Topics :: Furling block location :: Reply by TSweather

Maintenance Topics :: Head of Main Sail Pops Out of Track :: Reply by carlbraden

Maintenance Topics :: Cabin top halyard tail bags :: Reply by Vento Solare

Maintenance Topics :: Spartite Mast Insert Moving :: Reply by jerry

Maintenance Topics :: long delay before water exhausts :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

Sails & Tuning :: Batten Length? :: Reply by Hudson8

Racing Tools and Techniques :: Advice on pole and rigging for jib and/or asym spin :: Reply by jkalucki

Racing Tools and Techniques :: Looking for inhauler set ups :: Reply by jkalucki

Events & Scheduling :: Charter J-109 available California :: Reply by dbrousseau

Boats for Sale :: 2003 deep draft J109 "Zig Zag" :: Author Bengt J

Boats for Sale :: No Longer for Sale: 2009 J-109 for sale :: Reply by 35601

Boats for Sale :: Sold: J/109 #230 for sale in Hamburg, Germany :: Reply by Kapama

Boats for Sale :: Wanted J/109 for Chicago racing and cruising :: Author dimab0

Boats for Sale :: LOKI - USA 125 is for sale! :: Author drosowj

Boats for Sale :: For Sale: Leading Edge, 2003 J/109 :: Reply by Dan Corcoran

Boats for Sale :: Blackfin for Sale #310 :: Author blackfin

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Strider Sails & Equipment for Sale, Easy to purchase, live link here :: Reply by 35601

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD - 2017 Evolution A2 (120 sq meters) :: Author JohnGreifzu

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD *** April 2023 *** PRICE REDUCED - 2022 North A2 Class Spinnaker (108 sq meter) :: Reply by raydouglas

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Transom Locker :: Reply by Captadam

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD - 2020 North 3Di L/M Class Jib :: Reply by glennmarck

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Sails to give away :: Reply by kurtstrecker

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Wanted: Used Spinnaker :: Author kurtstrecker

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: Winter Cover Special :: Author NSCanvas

Looking to Buy Something :: Extra Stanchions for US Boat? :: Author JohnGreifzu

Looking to Buy Something :: Wanted: J/109 for Chicago racing and cruising :: Author dimab0

Looking to Buy Something :: Looking for Code 0 :: Author Meinhard

Looking to Buy Something :: Looking for gently used racing sails to buy :: Author dbrousseau

Sails & Equipment for Sale :: SOLD * April 2023 * PRICE REDUCED - 2022 North A2 Class Spinnaker (108 sq meter) :: Reply by raydouglas